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Old 09-24-2013, 11:52 AM
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Default Vegetarians

How many of you are vegetarians out there? About 10 years ago, I became a vegetarian (no animals--including fish--but still occasionally eating animal products like dairy and eggs) and began practicing yoga. I almost immediately lost 25 lbs, and 10 years later (still a vegetarian and practicing/teaching yoga), I have maintained healthy happy weight with this same diet/lifestyle. I don't know if it was a combination of the yoga/vegetarian diet that my body/mind/spirit liked or one of them individually.

I am often questioned about my alleged lack of protein consumption, alleged over consumption of carbs, and alleged lack of cardio. Usually, I just shrug and say the vegetarian diet and yoga exercise (with a healthy dose of hiking) just seem to work for my body, and I cannot imagine ever not doing one or the other.

This morning on the way to the office, I was listening to an archived IE Radio interview with Mark Sisson who wrote Primal Blueprint from Aug. 23, 2009. He advocates high protein (animal meat), low carb, no wheat/grain diet. Unfortunately, the interview did not touch of vegetarians.

What do you vegetarians out there do for protein? I actually have pretty low dairy intake as well (slight lactose intolerance) and depend on beans beans beans and soy products for protein (altho I intensely dislike those manufactured soy/whey shake products). However, with the GMO issues out there, I am concerned about soy. I mean, tofu is a pretty highly "processed" food, and I've never seen any "non-GMO" labeling on any tofu brands. Same thing for tempeh (one of my faves). Brit, are you aware of non-GMO tofu and/or tempeh brands?

As far as eliminating grains from the diet . . . I don't know. Wheat, yes, I get that, but rice? quinoa? millet? bulgar? These are veritable staples for me! And beans . . . . those are pretty high carb, I'm thinking, but there's no way I could eliminate that from my diet. Grains, beans, etc. are also staples of the ayurvedic diet, which is followed by ancient yogis who some say live 100s of years.

Perhaps all of this is just a matter of listening to your own body and following whatever it tells you to do? But I am curious about what other vegetarians do for protein and/or limiting grains/carbs.

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Old 09-24-2013, 04:38 PM
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Hi Steph,
After listening to this show with Mark Sisson, I bought his book "The Primal Blueprint" and have found it very useful. He certainly doesn't advocate a vegetarian diet. But he does have some great advice. I love that he said he can eat lamb and have a glass of wine and still be thin and healthy. He recommends (for those who can't seem to drop the pounds) to cut out carbs. He is not the only one to say this, but it does work. I rarely eat pasta or rice or any carbs really, and have no trouble staying at a good weight. I love his book and it has really inspired me. So, for anyone interested, I would suggest giving it a try.
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Old 09-26-2013, 01:40 PM
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I truly believe everyone is different and each require different forms of nutrition.

I don't do strictly vegetarian any more. I can do 3 or 4 days but after that I found the 'brain power' shut down. I need protein from poultry and fish (and rarely but sometimes, red meat) (all organic & fresh caught lake fish) to think and have energy.

My weight doesn't flux much but I haven't done gluten or dairy or sugar for years. If I eat grain it is usually a little quinoa - which is an excellent source of protein. Stephanie you might try quinoa as a protein base as it also provides a number of important enzymes.

The Paleo diet that Sisson talks about is the way humans used to eat eons ago and it works for many! That's what Shirley has been doing and she's feeling great and dropping some pounds.

Personally I feel that whether you're eating plant or animal you are taking and using the life energy of something for which I always give thanks. (I'm no where near being a breatharian) So the animal issue isn't why I did vegetarian for a couple years - it was done for health and I found that for me veggies weren't enough.
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Old 09-26-2013, 02:15 PM
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Hi Brit and All!

Thanks for the very thoughtful reply. Yes, I eat quinoa quite often as a protein boost. Do you know much about the tofu industry? Should I avoid it? Or if you have any book recommendations on the topic, please let me know!

I think I'll cease my life as a vegetarian once I move out of this crazy metropolis and live more rurally. For example, I'd feel much better about eating an animal if I, myself, hunted it. Does that sound strange? It's like thanking the tomato garden for their loyal giving all season before commencing the dicing for the last bruschetta bash (and giving thanks or a blessing before beginning to cook or eat a meal, yes?). You are right. It is a complete transference of energy--be it animal or plant. Clive Baxter would agree, too, no?

One of my great delights is cooking for others after thanking the food and cooking with love and with a smile on my face and then seeing the food really positively affect those receiving it--more than it would had I cooked it in a bad mood or without thanks.

Now...it's been a long day at a hearing, and I thank these grains and these olives that made this martini! Bless them . . . very very much!

Namaste from the Midwest,
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:28 PM
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Default Happy World Vegetarian Day!

Happy World Vegetarian Day, All! Thank you, ShirleyGram, for the notice. This long-time vegetarian did not even know!

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Old 10-06-2013, 07:52 PM
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I have done some years as a vegetarian.....mostly in the late 90's early 2000's. I originally gave up meat because I was told that it makes your vibration heavy. So, when I started doing readings about 1997 I gave up meat so it would be easier to connect. It was not too hard for me because of my love for animals and I was not really thrilled eating most meat anyway.

Then one day while I was working my regular job at Disney, I smelled barbecue ribs cooking and I could not figure out why because there was no place around me cooking ribs. It was so compelling that on my lunch break I decided to eat some meat....no matter what they had to offer at the employee cafeteria. The only meat that looked good to me was spaghetti with meat sauce. So, I got that and with the very first bite I felt an electric shock go through my body. It felt really good and necessary. So, at that point I started to eat meat again. I only eat beef and turkey. I do not really like chicken or fish and I just do not eat pork either.
I will only eat meat about 5 days out of the week and only once a day. I feel rather sluggish if I eat meat at lunch and dinner both.

So, I agree with Brit....everyone's body is different and has different needs.
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Old 10-12-2013, 07:02 PM
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Default For Norma Rae

I was a vegetarian and like others here, found, that after becoming anemic, I learned that I had to eat some animal protein, although, like Shelley, I didn't like the idea of it at the time. Like Brit, I eat some fish and chicken and very occasionally some grass fed beef. It really is a good idea to listen to your body.

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